Cheapo Hi-FI: mission accomplished?

A few months ago I set myself a challenge of building a separates Hi-Fi on a budget. I think I spent about £150 in total and ended up with an OK little set up. However, whilst some components were bought for very little money, the turntable swallowed up three quarters of the budget. In the midst of the current vinyl resurgence, a bargain turntable is a very hard thing to come by. However, a few weeks ago I happened across one such bargain.

 
A new charity shop (or 'thirft store' as our American cousins say) opened not far away and I went for a look. Hiding amongst the toasters and old Sky TV boxes was a very dusty mini turntable. It had no stylus and looked a bit unloved. There were still signs of life as when I plugged it in and moved the tone arm, the platter span. The price? £5. I put it back on the shelf just as my wife walked past and said, "That's worth the gamble for £5". So the turntable came with me.

On closer inspection is turns out I had bought a Sony PS-J20 mini turntable. Miraculously the lid was scratch and crack free and the unit cleaned up quite nicely. As I expected, the platter was spinning WAY off correct speeds. But with an RPM calculator app on my phone and a few tweaks on the (rather temperamental) potentiometers, it was soon running at 33.3 and 45 rpm quite nicely.

The instructions I downloaded suggested this little beast was circa 2000 and was missing a few accessories such as a mat for the platter and an EP adapter. Once I located the correct stylus and ordered the accessories, the turntable was beginning to look pretty good. All of the automation of the tone arm and buttons worked as expected. All good so far.

Before I committed any of my precious vinyl to this turntable I looked at the tracking force to check the stylus wasn't going to try to gouge its way through the record. Happily the scales said 2.5g. Rather respectable I thought.

How does it sound? Well it's OK. It's not the greatest, but it does a job. There's a lot of distortion on "S"sounds on some records and the tone is quite thin (compared to the admittedly bass heavy SL-1200). But the automation is handy when you just want to leave a record spinning in the background and its compact size means it fits anywhere.

Yes, I spent more in restoring it than the purchase cost, but it was worth it. With a bit of effort and good luck you can have a reasonable standard turntable for £20. Despite its shortcomings this has to be better than any ION or Crossley type disaster on sale today.

Cheapo HiFi update

Having failed to acquire a turntable at a reasonable price on eBay, I resolved to blow the remainder of my budget on a brand new one. About 10 years ago I owned a SoundLab SL1200 copy that wasn't too bad, so rather than trust my precious wax to something that might damage them, I decided to buy the same turntable gain.

However, the G056C has been through several iterations over the years and the current version is the G056F.

The first difference I noticed between the G056C and the newer F was a separate power switch rather than it being incorporated in the target light (as it is with a real 1200). Other downgrades seem to include a terrible platter (with totally useless strobe marks), a crappy slip mat, downgraded cartridge and generally poor build quality. The only discernible upgrade in the move from the C to the F designation is the addition of a line output (presumably there is now a pre-amp in there).

The chief commonality between the old C and the new F is that they run slightly too slow at 33 1/3 rpm and far too fast at 45 rpm. A series of tweaks of the potentiometers on the underside now means it turns at the right speed; but why they can't set this correctly at the factory baffles me.

Instant upgrades involved swapping the cartridge and stylus for the one that came with my old G056C (I threw out the faulty turntable but kept the headshell/cartridge purely on a whim) and bought a better slip mat. I have the tracking weight at a smidge over 3g so it's not going to do too much damage. Following these changes the reproduction is reasonable for a machine that only costs £90. Yet I remain disappointed by the G056F. Never has the old adage of "You get what you pay for" rung more clearly in my ears.

But bear in mind this turntable is within easy reach of 2 children under the age of 5 and I am quite sure it will be abused at some stage. A few years of using SL-1200s have raised my expectations of turntables, so this retrograde step was always going to disappoint; but it's better than finding my children have ruined a nice SL-1200.

Incidentally I have looked at the prices of  new, old stock G056C machines on the Internet and they seem to be priced between £110 and £160. The C is definitely better than the F, but if I was spending £160 I would just continue to save up and get a SL1200 from eBay. A reasonable condition SL-1200 may be twice the price, but they are a hundred times better than the Soundlab in every single department.

I have also changed out the amp in the cheapo HiFi set up. I managed to obtain a Sony TA-FE370 for £21. Not only is this amp not damaged but it is contemporary with (and therefore matches the design of) my CDP-XE 370 CD player. The amp has a remote control that also works on the CD player - so the battered TA-F161 that started this whole thing is currently sitting idle.

Over the last couple of weeks I have also acquired a cassette deck for the princely sum of £20. However, the Sony TC-KE200 has proven so useful that it remains in my office set up and I will have to get another unit to go downstairs. If I can get another KE200 for around £20, my total spend will be £140 for a budget separates system. Not bad, not bad at all.

Cheapo Hi-Fi challenge: week 3

This week hasn't seen much activity for the Hi-Fi challenge. A new acquisition is winging its way to me, but it hasn't yet arrived. Unfortunately this new item is being delivered via Royal Fail (sorry Mail), so even if it does manage to get here, it will probably be in pieces.

One change I have made this week is to the RCA cables being used to cobble the separates together. When I first set the system up I used whatever I could find in the loft. However, the cables I used weren't of the best quality and some even had bent plugs. Therefore I resolved to purchase something better.

I decided that the budget could stretch to some Primewire HQ Platinum cables. At £5 they fit the bill perfectly; they are both 'budget' and of good quality. These cables are undoubtedly a step up from the rubbish I had been using and have impressed me so much that I have bought more for my system upstairs. I also have some in reserve for when new separates arrive.

Cheapo HiFi Part 3: CD player overload

The third week of the "Cheapo HiFi Challenge" sees me hoarding CD players. I was always going to need another CD player as my computer is not kept in the same room in which I am setting up my new separates system. So, during the week I placed a few bids on devices that took my fancy and let eBay do the rest. Next thing I know I am the proud owner of a Technics SL-PG390 and a Sony CDP-491.

Technics have arrived

Now the Technics machine remains in the 'cheapo' bracket having cost me just £15. It has an optical output so is ideal to live in the upstairs set up with my computer. It works well enough and isn't in bad shape cosmetically.

At this point I must confess a predilection for retro Technics gear. I spent a large part of my school days in 1985 (and '86 and '87) leafing through Technics catalogues thinking: 'if only'. Whilst this particular machine is from much later than 1985, it still has that magical Technics badge that the 12 year me can't resist. Of course I am now toying with the idea of building a Technics system to compliment my SL-1200 MKII and new CD player. We shall see how that plan develops.

Anyway, back to the old Sony stack. I had decided to break the bank on a CD player with a remote control. Messing about with the remote-less CDP-XE370 was becoming a bit of a chore and when the CDP-491 (complete with instructions and remote control) came along, my head was turned. The 491 is a much older machine (circa 1990) than the CDP-XE370 (circa 2001) but it is higher spec (it must be, it has more buttons for heaven's sake). It seems a remote and instructions raises the price on eBay quite considerably and I ended up paying almost £40 for this one.

The new CD with remote

However, the majority of the extra functionality contained within the CDP-491 does not have much to offer in the modern era. This is because there are a large number of functions dedicated to recording CD to tape. Like the Technics machine, the new Sony has a 'Peak Search' function to scan the CD for the highest peaks on the disc to allow the user to set the levels on their cassette recorder. This machine can also fade tracks in and out and build a programme to fit a specified time. I would have killed for these options back in 1990 (particularly the fade options) but in 2018 they are pretty much redundant. For now that is...mix tape anyone?

Cheapo Hi-Fi Part 2

So, part 2 of my cheapo HI-Fi challenge sees me actually generating sound. Having overhauled my old Jamo speakers I decided the first step to my new separates system had to be the amplifier. My approach was to leave a series of relatively low bids against amps on eBay and see if any were successful. As the days went by the 'outbid' notifications multiplied and my chances of landing an amp in the first week began to look remote.

Happily however, nobody seemed to interested in a bashed up Sony amp beyond £25 (can't think why). Two days after the auction ended I received the unit and fired it up for the first time. I took my £10 Sony CD player, hooked them all up and to my surprise, everything worked.

Now the TA-F161 isn't going to win any awards and was decidedly budget even when it was new (circa 1995). The sound is indistinct and no matter how you coax the eq it sounds a bit woolly. But it was £25. On the plus side it has a phono stage (as yet untested) and actually produces sound (something of a novelty on eBay where half the listings seem to be 'for spares only'). Or rather it did work.

Something about the base of the amplifier didn't quite look right in the stack (note the front left foot isn't visible on the picture). This isn't because of the angle of the photograph, it's because the foot is pushed up into the body of the amp. At some stage this unit has received a massive bash to the base that rendered it useless. It seems it has then been 'recycled' (i.e. repaired badly) by a company and sold on. I say badly repaired because there has been no attempt to pull out the dents to the base of the amplifier.

As I manipulated the foot in an attempt to pull out the dent, the unit powered down and could not be resurrected. Now one good aspect to the previous botched repair was that half of the screws holding the amp together were missing. Thus opening it up was achieved quite quickly. Once inside it became obvious that the previous 'trauma' to this unit resulted in the PSU being damaged. As I was pulling the dents out of the case I was moving the PSU and disconnecting it from the circuit board. With the connection re-established we had power and sound once again. This amp will just have to stay bashed and a bit wobbly on it's feet.

So for £35 we have a CD player, amplifier and speakers. However, with only £65 budget remaining and turntables currently fetching top prices, the bigger challenges look set to come.

Watch your bass bins I'm tellin' ya

Recently I wanted to wanted to rip some CDs that had pesky copy protection. In the past I achieved this by taking a digital optical signal from a CD player into my PC; easy. However, 2018 found me bereft of any kind of CD player, a situation that I found surprising and a little alarming. I began to reminisce about all of the CD players I have known over the years and felt a desire to own another. Thus, I set out to find a cheap but reliable CD player with a optical output.

I managed to buy a fairly run of the mill Sony CDP-XE370 (missing the remote control) on eBay for the princely sum of £10. It arrived after 2 days and works fine - in fact, it's quite a nice sounding machine. The internet suggests this model harks back to 2001 and is capable of playing MP3 data - a good find it would seem.

Inspired by this success, I have resolved to build a Hi-Fi separates system for another part of the house solely from eBay. I have a tiny budget (I have challenged myself to not go into 3 figures) but absolutely no time limit.

Barn fresh and bashed up

To start to my 'cheapo separates challenge' I have cheated a little. I remembered that there was a pair of Jamo speakers in the loft that would get the ball rolling. Whilst a pair of vintage D115 cabinets aren't exactly the top of the food chain when it comes to speakers, they would suffice for my needs. However, when I pulled the speakers down into the light of day it appeared that 3 of the 6 cones had become bashed in over the years. Vintage Hi-Fi was obviously going to come with some maintenance obligations.

I have a distant memory of squashing the cones on my father's Acoustic Research speakers sometime in the late 70's. Surprisingly I don't remember getting a whack around the head or him being particularly angry. I do however remember him pushing a pin into the tweeters in an attempt to pull out the dent. This strategy did pull out the dent, but it also left an ugly hole in a very expensive and beautiful speaker. Thus, when I found these speakers I went straight to Google for solutions and not the sewing kit.

The first suggested remedy was to place a cardboard tube (say the inside of a kitchen or toilet roll) over the dent and suck the dent out. Needless to say, I didn't try this. Second option was to stick adhesive tape to the cone and pull the dent out. This method involves rubbing a pencil over the tape to ensure it has sufficient adhesion to the cone and then pull the dent out. With no pencil to hand I grabbed one of the many crayons lying around the office (the children play in there you understand, I am allowed to handle sharp objects) and got to work. Much to my surprise the first pull resulted in a 50% improvement and with a little careful application I was able to pull the whole of the first dent out. The much thinner, paper cone of the mid speaker did suffer some surface damage from the tape, but the dent was also fully removed. The second speaker responded well to treatment and after about 20 minutes work all of the dents were pulled out.

Repaired and ready: the first part of the cheapo separates challenge

Now 20 years in the loft haven't done much for the looks of these speakers and some cleaning and minor repairs were required. I managed to find a permanent black marker in the same shade of black as the cabinets and touched up all of the blemishes that exposed the underlying fibreboard. I then pulled the plastic exhausts and had a good clean inside. All of the wiring and solders seemed good and once the dust covers were back on, these old Danish warriors (these are vintage speakers predating the switch to production in China) were beginning to look serviceable.

The only test that remains is to actually play something through them. I will be interested to see how they sound - not having listened to them for 20 years (I am making an assumption that they will work as there isn't much to go wrong with them).